Welcome to Internet Business Mastery. We’re a community of internet entrepreneurs dedicated to helping you escape the 9-to-5 by turning your life’s passion into an extremely profitable internet business. This community was started by us- Sterling and Jay - two entrepreneurs that left the cubicle wasteland and created six-figure incomes working online. (We’d add sitting at home in our underwear, but you just don’t need that visual. Doh! Too late!)
On this page you’ll find the three sections listed below. You can navigate to any section by clicking on one of the following links.
- The Story of Internet Business Mastery
- About Sterling
- About Jay
If you’re looking for a tour of the site, you can find it here.
The Story of Internet Business Mastery
An Epidemic That’s Stealing Your Freedom
There’s an epidemic in our society. We’ve seen way too many people whose jobs (or even their own businesses) enslave them, yes, literally taking away their freedom. Does that sound familiar?
Society teaches you to get a “secure” job and work hard so you can finaly retire someday and enjoy your life. While that may work for some people, it doesn’t work for us. We believe you can enjoy freedom and fulfillment in your lifestyle starting now! You have the right to design and live the lifestyle of your own choosing.
We know how it is. You go to your job day in and day out feeling like there must be something more in life, some better way to find fulfillment than to play the part of an employee and wholesale your time and talents out only to make your boss rich.
Here We Believe You Deserve More
Your friends and family might even tell you it’s crazy to think that there’s any other way to make a living. They probably tell you it’s “risky.” We heard the same things when we quit our jobs. Now we enjoy more time with our families and travel the world while those people are still miserable in their day jobs.
In our community we believe you can enjoy something more. Your life does not have to be subject to your job. Here we say that the greatest risk is to live a life that doesn’t fulfill you and that true security is found in a business that provides for the lifestyle that YOU choose, not that your job dictates for you. As a part of Internet Business Mastery, you’ll find true freedom and fulfillment without fighting your way up the corporate ladder and without falling victim to a business that rules every waking hour of your life.
The Lifestyle of Your Dreams
When we say lifestyle, we’re not just talking about money and wealth. Your lifestyle should provide the freedom to live where you want (one of us lives in Buenos Aires, Argentina), pursue your passions, spend more time with your family, express your creativity, not live in survival mode, not wholesale your time and abilities out to a boss that doesn’t appreciate you…do we need to go on?
Believe us. We’ve been there and we know how it is. It saps your energy. You feel like you have no control over your time. You wake up every day wishing there was something else. Well, you were meant for something better.
A True Business That Gives You Freedom
The key to establishing a lifestyle of freedom is to create a business that can operate from anywhere in the world and that continues to operate and grow even if you only work on it part-time. The Internet has made it easier than ever to create this kind of business.
We’ve both created six-figure incomes by turning our passions into internet businesses. This style of business is called information marketing - a little-known industry of entrepreneurs working only part-time hours and netting six- or seven-figure profits.
The best part is it doesn’t require a degree or even a secret handshake to get started. You just create or gather information and sell it in convenient forms to people who need it. The possibilities for topics are endless and include everything imaginable from better sex, to teaching parrots to talk, to raising Vietnamese pot-belly pigs (no we didn’t make that one up), to investing in real estate, to starting a business.
Don’t underestimate the value of your expertise, hobbies or even interests that you are still discovering. There are people who will pay you really good money to get this kind of information from you. Internet Business Mastery shows you how.
The Reluctant Gurus
At first when we quit our jobs, family and friends were confused. Then they saw the lifestyle we’d created and how we were perfectly happy and secure outside of the 9-to-5. In fact, people started asking us how we did it.
However, we knew that even if we told them exactly how we did it and how easy it is, most of them would just go back to their “secure” jobs and not change a thing. We didn’t know if we could face that disappointment knowing the huge impact it could have on their life if they would just try it.
Then we discovered podcasting. Instantly we saw the opportunity to reach thousands of people all over the world. Even if only a modest percentage of listeners acted on what we shared, we could make a significant impact.
Encouraged and excited, we started Internet Business Mastery in September of 2005. The results were more than we could have ever expected.
No Business Machines or Jackson Singers Here
We want to pause for one second to clear something up. Even though community members and fans affectionately refer to Internet Business Mastery as IBM, we’re not the blue chip mega-corp. It’s purely coincidental-like Tito’s membership in the Jackson Five.
#1 Internet Business and Marketing Podcast Since 2005
A couple months after launching the show, we started getting emails from our web host telling us they were going to shut our site down. We had too many people visiting and downloading our podcast. We were too popular! We had to move to a bigger host. Clearly we were on to something.
Since then, we’ve been the #1 podcast in iTunes for subjects such as internet marketing, internet business, entrepreneurship, web 2.0 and more. Our podcast even ranks above Rich Dad Poor Dad and Donald Trump (but don’t tell The Donald…we don’t want to get FIRED).
Then the email and comments started pouring in. People resonated with our message. They shared stories ranging from how they blasted our show over and over while working at their dead end Wal-Mart job to business owners that had doubled their income to listeners that were elated to tell us they were finally able to quit their job. It was having an impact.
Internet Business Mastery now has community members from over 141 countries worldwide on all six major continents.
What Internet Business Mastery Offers You
As a part of our community you’ll discover how to:
- Transform your life’s passion into an extremely profitable internet business so that you can escape the 9-to-5
- Become a world-renowned expert and celebrity in your field
- Attain financial freedom and the ability to live the lifestyle of your dreams
- Capitalize on cutting edge social media and Web 2.0 secrets to explode your traffic and build your own loyal community of buyers
About Sterling
About Jeremy Frandsen
aka “Sterling”
My Journey To Freedom
Well, it all started a few years back when my mother met my father… Fast forward a few years and there I sat in an Avid editing bay at Warner Brothers Studio in Hollywood California.
I had been working in the film/TV industry for about 13 years. I had gone to Hollywood to escape the daily grind that my friends seemed to fall into in Salt Lake City, Utah. I wasn’t about to fall into the same trap! No working in some factory for me!
Editing movie trailers and TV shows was about art, right? Well, it was for me. About that time two things happened. An executive at Warner Brothers told me to cut up my artistic vision which was my current favorite movie trailer, it showed the perfect essence of the film. I was excited to show it to the execs. They were going to see me as the master artist I had been attempting to be. It was all crushed as one of the exec said, “Add more of the hot chick”. They didn’t get me and I didn’t get that business.
I suddenly realized I DID work in a factory, only our widgets were glossy and entertained millions. It didn’t change the fact that I wasn’t an artist at all, I was making the same old widget to be consumed by the masses. So, sitting in the edit bay I was stunned. I thought I was different, I thought I was an artist.
About the same time I was handed a book that not only rocked my world, but came at just the right time. I read the entire book the night I opened it up. A crack formed in my mentality and shifted the entire way I thought. I became a new person that night, I became: Unemployable Man! What was the book that transformed me into the entrepreneurial superhero wearing less then flattering tights? Yeah, you guessed it: Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki.
I look back now and realize that book is a very basic view on being an entrepreneur, but it was just what I needed at the time. I then did something incredibly shocking to every one I knew. I quit a job that people spend their entire careers working for. My Production Supervisor was aghast! I didn’t give him time to say the cliché, ‘You’ll never work in this town again!!’.
I moved my family back to Salt Lake City to start my real estate empire. Real estate is one of the big possibilities in the Rich Dad book. That lasted about a year at which point I realized I hated the real estate world. It didn’t fit me at all.
Luckily, I when to a seminar that was put on by one of the real estate gurus but it was the only seminar he put on that WASN’T about real estate. It was the ‘Internet & Information Marketing Boot Camp’. That was the next big life changer for me.
I saw the likes of Corey Rudl and Yanik Silver talk about internet business and the millions they had made doing it. I met Gary Halbert and Dan Kennedy and learned all about the classic ways of marketing.
I was sold. Where do I sign up?! I started my career by buying a license to many of the massively successful works of Dan Kennedy. Within 6 months I was making over 10 grand a month, nearly replacing my old career pay, and I couldn’t be happier.
As my new businesses chugged along, I started studying everything I could get my hands on about internet business and internet marketing. I started several other businesses. Some worked, many didn’t .
I met Jason “JAY” Van Orden about this time and boy did we click. It’s really rare to meet someone that gets this internet business world, but when you do you have to act fast! We started Internet Business Mastery not long after and things have skyrocketed since. By using FREE social media & web 2.0 style techniques, we took Internet Business Mastery the podcast to #1 in the internet business category.
I heard the saying, ‘9 our of 10 businesses fail in the first 5 years’, so I created as many businesses as possible so I could have just one or two that would make it. I was very fortunate as several have stuck and I am able to do what I love full time and create a fantastic lifestyle doing it.
Life is good. I love what I do and I love teaching others how to do it. I realized there is nothing I would rather be doing then freedom questing in the internet business universe! (’cept maybe playing the Sonny Malone part in Xanadu, but that could never happen…)
-Sterling
A Few of the Sites That Make Me Money
Dan-Kennedy-Auctions.com
Renegade-eBay-Sellers.com
HomeBusinessCourseReviews.com (new)
Internet Business Mastery
About Jay
About Jason Van Orden
aka “Jay”
How I Became an Internet Entrepreneur
When I started reading the book, I had no idea the profound impact it would have on my life. I was about to be enlightened and enter the ranks of the unemployable—those who were fed up with the tyranny of the 9-to-5.
My first job out of college was supposedly my dream job. I’d just received my degree in Electrical Engineering with an emphasis in digital audio. I was hired by DigiTech to design and create software for audio gear that would be used by musicians worldwide (including Grammy award winners.) I’d received one of the highest offers of my graduating peers and was the envy of my rocker friends. As a guitarist and gigging musician this was the perfect combination of my passion with a practical career that paid the bills, provided benefits and saved for retirement forty years down the road (just what I was supposed to do, right?). Yet why was I so unsatisfied?
I could tell that something was missing. In fact, many things were missing. For three years I searched for a way to get more satisfaction from my life’s pursuits. I couldn’t remain a software engineer and be happy.
Test/Hurdle
Would I put up with the status quo, using all the typical excuses to stay put in a situation that didn’t make me happy, or would I be willing to carefully evaluate myself and the situation to find the necessary changes?
I dedicated myself to self-evaluation and studying my options to figure out what I could do to improve the situation. I soon realized that I needed several key factors in order to find satisfaction in life: constant opportunities to learn, teach, try new things and exert creativity.
My continuous frustration with the corporate culture showed me that I wanted more freedom and control over what I did. I was not content to wholesale my time and talents to make my employer rich.
So what could I do? I missed the college environment…maybe I could be a professor! Nah…it would require too many years of jumping through hoops to get tenure and a meager salary. I loved the outdoors. Perhaps I could be a park ranger at a national park—required another bachelor’s degree. I liked marketing my band. It energized me to run it like a business.
Maybe I could get an MBA? I studied hard for the GMAT and aced it. I was set to go to Stanford or Berkeley (I love the Bay Area). But wait. I would accrue tens of thousands of dollars in debt and land right back in the corporate 9-to-5. That is when I read the book.
Lessons Learned
- If you are not enjoying your life to the fullest, don’t settle.
- If something is not right, be willing to do the work to figure out what it is and how to fix it. Be proactive.
- Figure out what you need in life to be fulfilled. Find ways to make these things part of your life.
- Don’t let fear and the usual excuses hold you back.
- Get the education needed to make the necessary change
A Paradigm Shift
On the recommendation of my wife’s cousin, we read Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki. It caused a huge paradigm shift in my thinking. It set in motion necessary mindset corrections. It filled critical knowledge voids. It opened up to new possibilities. I felt like I could control and create my circumstances rather than settle for the status quo.
I dove into other books in the same vein to find my course of action: Multiple Streams of Income by Robert Allen, The Millionaire Next Door and The Millionaire Mind by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko, The Cash Flow Quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki, and The No B.S. Series by Dan Kennedy.
Test/Hurdle
Would I accept that it was ok to go against the trends of the majority? Did I believe I could forge a path against the norm that society had taught me?
I decided that I wanted more in life and I wasn’t going to get it by staying where I was. Leaving the ranks of the time wholesalers (the un-gainfully employed) and forging my own path was inevitable. I just needed a plan of attack. My reading had exposed me to several ideas for building a business and creating passive income: real estate, stocks, franchises, online business, network marketing, etc. But I wasn’t quite sure which one to choose and how to proceed.
Lessons Learned
- Placing your trust in the corporate world and wasting the best years of your life tied the status quo (when they don’t fulfill you) is just as risky as life outside of employment
A Step Closer to Freedom
Eventually my research pointed to real estate investing as one of the most prevalent devices for creating financial freedom. I decided to start there. But I was still missing two things: the specific “how to” information needed for action and acquaintance with people who had done what I wanted to do (or who were at least committed to doing it).
I found both at the Salt Lake Real Estate Investors Association (the same association that I would head as president later that year). There I met numerous people actively pursuing a lifestyle of freedom. It was incredibly motivating. The ideas I’d been studying came off the page and into real life.
One of these people, Jeff, became my first mentor. He was a successful local real estate investor who designed a series of seminars to teach others to do what he did. It was $100 for each one. At the time it seemed like a lot of money to spend. Now it’s not uncommon for me to drop $1000-$2000 on a course or seminar.
Test/Hurdle
Would I be willing to spend the money necessary to get the education I needed to pursue my plans? I also needed a mentor (someone who had already done what I wanted to do).
I was committed. I wrote a check. My wife and I attended the seminars. We felt a surge of excitement and confidence that we could make our plans a reality. I quickly learned the value of investing in your education. I think Ron LeGrand put it best when he said: “Either way you’re going to go to a seminar. Either you can pay for it now or pay for it with time, energy and headaches in the school of hard knocks.” No matter what there is a price to pay.
Lessons Learned
- There will be a learning curve. Be ready to dedicate yourself to it both in time, energy and finances.
- Learn from those who have already done it so you can save time and avoid pitfalls.
Now I needed a mentor. I knew that just asking someone to mentor me might not go over well. Anyone who has reached the level I wanted to get to values their time far too much to spend time teaching me unless somehow it was mutually beneficial. I’d seen too many feeble attempts by others to pick the brain of the expert without offering something worthwhile in exchange. They were met with a swift brush off.
Test/Hurdle
How could I find a mentor that would teach me if I didn’t have enough money to pay him?
An opportunity came my way to work for Jeff and learn from him. I would help him find deals. I only got paid if he got paid. But I also got more access to him, the opportunity to show him what I could do and an opportunity to gain his respect. This fast tracked my progression.
Lessons Learned
- Mentors are invaluable to your progress
- When approaching a potential mentor, respect their time. Figure out how to help them before they help you. Find a mutually beneficial arrangement.
Goodbye to the J-O-B
Soon I felt confident in doing real estate investing on my own. I also reached a point where my job was sapping so much of my time and energy that it was holding me back from going to the next level. I was really unhappy and it was time for a change. But I was afraid to take the next step.
Thank goodness for my wife. I need to give her credit here. She encouraged me to carefully evaluate the situation. She even urged me to look at the obvious solution—quit my job. For this, I am hugely grateful. Having her support was critical. She wanted most for me to be happy and fulfilled. She was not afraid of uncertainty.
Test/Hurdle
How would I face the fear that had me frozen? Would I be able to take the leap of faith between me and the next level?
My wife and I sat down and made a list of the fears that were holding me back from making this difficult decision. There were nine of them. Then we asked ourselves a simple but very important question for each of the listed fears: what’s the worst thing that could happen if the fear came true? I talked about some of these fears in episode 10 of Internet Business Mastery.
The worst case was that we might need to make some small sacrifices in our lifestyle. Any potential “discomforts” that might arise were minor and well worth risking for the potential gain.
We made a financial plan, and shortly after, I gave my two weeks notice. It was very revealing to hear the reactions (excuses) of each of my co-workers when I told them I was leaving.
“How will you make money?” “Do you know that nine out of ten businesses fail?” “I’d do that if I were young and didn’t have kids.” Even worse were the ones that sent discouraging vibes my way just to justify their fear and jealousy of my courageous actions. Fortunately I was prepared to see these statements for what they were: excuses.
For my last week as an employee we put numbers cut from construction paper on the wall representing my countdown to freedom. On Friday, August 15, 2003, I burned the #1.
DisclaimerEveryone’s path is different. For me, I knew it was necessary to take the plunge and quit my job when I did. I’m not saying this is the only way to go. But I do know that commitments and sacrifices will need to be made along the way.
Lessons Learned
- When faced with fears, an effective attack is to identify them, write them down and ask: what’s the worst thing that could happen if the fear came true?
- Don’t over-inflate the likelihood and results of your fears.
- Be prepared to face opposition form those who are jealous that you have the courage to follow a different path. Here are some ways to deal with it:
- Expect it and see it for what it is
- Don’t bring the topic up with those who would discourage you
- Find friends and associates who will encourage and support you
A very interesting thing happened after I left my job. Not only did I have more time, energy and mental power, things just started to align. You can attribute whatever logical or existential explanation you want, but the best description I have for it is that the universe responded to my definitive action.
I took giant leaps forward, but I still had more to learn. One thing I would do differently is to have spent less time busying myself with logistics. I spent too many days researching and starting my LLC, designing my business cards and other such tasks. There were always activities to help me feel busy without taking too many potentially “scary” actions. While these things were important, I sometimes slipped into a mode of using those logistics to postpone real action. Fortunately after a month’s time I realized what I was doing and buckled down on my day-to-day activities.
Lessons Learned
- Be careful not to fall victim to paralysis of analysis.
- There is a difference between staying busy with work and productively progressing in your business.
From Newbie to President
We were sitting at the first meeting of the new board. At my suggestion and due to the prodding of other members, the Salt Lake Real Estate Investors Association (SLREIA) was getting more official. “I just don’t have time for this anymore. Since we’re forming a new board, we need a new president.” said the current head of the SLREIA. “How about Jason? He seems to know what we need to do.”
My natural tendency to take a system and make it more efficient (and to be especially vocal) had landed me as the de facto choice for the position. Within a handful of months I’d gone from newbie to president. The challenge interested me. It turns out it also put me in the perfect spot for my next income stream.
Lessons Learned
- Getting involved in an association/club—or even starting one—is a great way to make connections, learn from others and establish credibility.
Information Marketer
I was dedicated to constant learning. It was clear that knowledge was a key to success. I always had seminar CDs in my car and books by my bed. One day, when surfing Ebay, I came across the Information Marketing Boot Camp by Ron LeGrand for only $100. It was one of the best things I’d ever listened to. I’d have willingly paid $1500 for the course.
It gave me a thorough understanding of information marketing—the business of creating products (e.g. Manuals, CDs, videos, etc.) that teach people something of value. It was an income stream that could rival or even beat the power of real estate investing. This style of business interested the part of me that enjoyed teaching. It also appealed to the marketer in me. I knew I had to integrate it into my business portfolio.
Something related to real estate investing seemed to be the natural choice for my first information marketing product. It was something I was actively involved in and passionate about. But there were already tons of real estate gurus.
Test/Hurdle
How could I distinguish myself in the real estate investing niche?
I surveyed the SLREIA members to find out what their most pressing needs were. The answers revealed the perfect niche for me. A universal “pain” for investors was the need to find more deals. I had the answer—better marketing.
I’d been a student of marketing for many years. It was something I’d begun learning when promoting my bands. I’d had success in finding leads for my own real estate investing business. Teaching others how to do this was my niche.
Test/Hurdle
I needed a product to sell as well as more name recognition and credibility to help me sell it.
I began the process of branding myself as the local expert in that niche. At the beginning of every association meeting I gave a marketing quick tip. I created a web site. I wrote articles and posted them online. All this combined with my position as president of the SLREIA boosted my credibility.
I’d heard Dan Kennedy say that the best way to make a product was to get paid to create it. This meant holding a seminar, having people pay to attend it, recording it and turning it into a product to sell. I’d never conducted my own seminar, but I’d taught classes in college so I figured I would enjoy it.
I knew the best way to ensure action was to set a deadline that had to be met. I called a venue, booked the room and announced the date for my seminar. Getting people to attend wasn’t nearly as hard as I thought. I simply applied what I knew about marketing and what I’d learned from Ron LeGrand and Dan Kennedy.
I offered a free teleseminar to collect names and addresses. Then I employed a combination of online marketing and direct mail advertising to get registrations. I also did a joint venture partnership with my mentor, Jeff—he recommended me to his students and got a cut of the sales.
The day of the seminar came. I was prepped with my PowerPoint slides to teach them marketing strategies. In addition I prepared a way to sell the attendees other products. Since I didn’t have more products of my own yet, I licensed a couple Dan Kennedy products to sell at the end of the seminar. When all was said and done, I’d created a product to sell online—a manual and 6 CDs—and I’d made several thousands of dollars in the process.
I then knew that information marketing was the business for me. I thoroughly enjoyed learning new things, teaching people and marketing—many of the factors that I needed for fulfillment in life.
Lessons Learned
- Information marketing is an income stream that can be created with very little initial investment of time or money.
- Finding a niche within a niche is a great way to set yourself apart and create your own brand.
- To ensure action, set a deadline or process in motion that has to be met.
- The best way to create a product is to make money doing it.
- If you need more products to sell to your list, consider licensing.
Sterling and Jay Meet
Another thing I gained from my involvement in the SLREIA was my first business partner—Sterling (aka Jeremy Frandsen). At the time he was doing real estate investing as well and attended a couple association meetings. We were both Dan Kennedy students. So when he saw what I was doing with my first seminar he could tell we were like-minded. He shot me an email and asked to get together.
My wife and I met Jeremy at The Pie and had the best pizza in Salt Lake City. Right away we could tell that we had very similar goals and lots in common. We were both real estate investors that were about to become information/internet marketers. We both love to play Risk. We also both enjoyed teaching people how to succeed and achieve their dreams. Eventually the friendship and mutual interests led to starting the Internet Business Mastery podcast.
Lessons Learned
- Finding like-minded people to associate with brings interesting opportunities and much needed support.
Internet Marketer
I continued to hone my skills by studying other successful information marketers. I discovered that many of the most successful ones were selling products on the internet. The internet never sleeps. It sells for you 24/7. I spent a few more thousand dollars on courses by Yanik Silver, Marlon Sanders and other internet marketers.
I poured myself into learning the ins and outs of online marketing. I found it very similar to the marketing principles that I already used. Now things were just more targeted, easier to track and automated.
I created a web site for my Renegade Marketing System for Real Estate Investors. Using a variety of techniques (e.g. Blogging, Google AdWords, articles, etc.), I drove traffic to my site and started taking orders. This method of business blew me away. It took less time and effort than real estate investing and interested me more. The transition had begun. Before long it was my primary focus.
The final chop fell on real estate investing when I moved to New York City where my wife wanted to go to graduate school. She’d supported me in my life pursuits; it was time for me to return in kind. I closed my real estate business and focused purely on internet business and information marketing.
Being an internet entrepreneur has brought me the freedom and fulfillment that I was searching for. I’m in control of my time. I pick what projects I want to pursue. It allows me to travel. We’ve spent summers in Alaska hiking, camping and visiting family because we had no ties to employment holding us in one place. I can conduct business wherever I please. It landed me a book deal and numerous speaking engagements. It gives me an unlimited earning potential.
Along the way I’ve discovered many interesting opportunities for making money online. Not everything has worked, but the more I got to bat, the more chances I have to hit the ball.
My primary niche is podcasting. I talk about how I got into podcasting in this post on my personal blog. Podcasting has given me the unique opportunity to be on the forefront of a cutting edge technology. It’s a perfect niche that combines my interests and skills.
After learning and applying something new, I enjoy teaching it to others to help them succeed as well. It will be a constant part of my life.
I still have a ways to go in order to accomplish my own ultimate goals, but I thoroughly enjoy what I do and I wish the same for you.
To your success!
-Jay
More Than You Ever
Wanted to Know About Jay
Top 10 Favorite Bands or Musical Artists (in no particular order)
- Bjork
- Sting
- Ryan Adams (NOT Bryan)
- Sarah McLachlan
- Indigo Girls
- Joni Mitchell
- Regina Spektor
- Emperor X
- Incubus
- Sunfall Festival
Current Listening (tracked on Last.fm)
Top 10 Movies (in no particular order—yep…pretty non-commital here)
- LOTR: The Fellowship of the Ring
- LOTR: The Two Towers
- LOTR: The Return of the King
- Before Sunrise
- Before Sunset
- Clue
- X-Men
- A&E’s Pride and Prejudice (yup…it’s true)
- Alien
- The Matrix
Top 5 Favorite Songs
Too hard. Next question.
Favorite Vacation Spots
- Paris, France
- Lake Powell
- Moab, Utah
- Alaska
- San Francisco and The Bay Area
Hobbies
- Writing and performing music
- Finding new independent bands and musicians to listen to
- Hiking and camping
- Scuba
- Discovering New York City
- Photography
- Dabbling in video
13 More Bullet Points about Jay (Jason Van Orden)
I:
- Grew up in Alaska
- Speak French fluently
- Lived in Paris
- Love living in Manhattan
- Started programming at the tender age of 7 (geek!)
- Collected comics books until college (double geek!)
- Got a B.S. in Electrical Engineering and was an IEEE officer (for crying out loud…GEEK!)
- Got a two-year diploma in guitar performance (ok, a little less geeky)
- Played saxophone for nine years
- Played in numerous bands ranging from folk, to jazz, to alternative rock
- Perform live with my wife (she sings and plays guitar)
- Produced and released five CDs of original music
- Have traveled the entire Alaska-Canada highway four times—including once as a newborn in a VW bus and once as a teenager in a school bus (containing all my family’s worldly possessions)
My Current Projects and Sites That Make Me Money